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ArsenalMill
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Still hasnt changed my opinion. Still got it wrong. Where is the striker and the cb.

I'm hoping this is an intent signal....

And that AW will now use a big name signing to leverage other deal to go through in Jan

Otherwise he's wasted 42m to strengthen an already strong area of the pitch for no reason...

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Posted : 03/09/2013 4:49 am
Friscoslug
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This is all about Gazidis saving his face. This has nothing to do with really strengthening the team. Think about it.
Wenger has been saying me need NUMBERS that we're very short. He's done that various times over the last two weeks. He talked of 3 and once in a post match interview when he went off message in an unguarded moment he mentioned six which I felt was nearer the mark.

We have a twenty-man squad, twenty two if we count Bendtner and Sanoga, which I don't. i don't want Bendtner even training with the squad. That is thin. Wafer thin if we consider our injury record.

Sure Ozil, or someone of his calibre, was on his wish list but I fear so much time was spent chasing the big name that the negotiating team neglected other requirements.

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Posted : 03/09/2013 5:31 am
bigpecks
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Disagree about us needing a centre half. Kos, Mert, Tv5 and Sagna are good enough. No guarantees that paying 18m for a centre half outside of the prem (I.e liverpool) will work straight away. Plus Ashley Williams at 29 & 12m would not help either.

For me we are 1 striker short - disappointed we couldn't bring in anyone with a bit of experience even on loan.

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Posted : 03/09/2013 6:05 am
I Believe Overall
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Disagree about us needing a centre half. Kos, Mert, Tv5 and Sagna are good enough. No guarantees that paying 18m for a centre half outside of the prem (I.e liverpool) will work straight away. Plus Ashley Williams at 29 & 12m would not help either.

For me we are 1 striker short - disappointed we couldn't bring in anyone with a bit of experience even on loan.

I think we know we are short striker wise - it just didn't come off. However, we do have cover there with Podolski and Walcott able to do a job (not ideal but its not impossible). Trouble we'd have is if we used Walcott especially up front then we are short a Winger. So we might need Gnabry or Ryo to step up sooner than we might otherwise want to. But its not a disaster - its not like they are completely useless and Gnabry especially looks like he might offer something.

What we need as always is a slice of good fortune, we might need to grind out the odd result here and there and we've got a chance of climbing towards a more respectable position.

I'm still for AW - but we do need an ongoing effort to attract better quality players in key positions - we've just got a whole lot more attractive to talented players.

me neither

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Posted : 03/09/2013 6:31 am
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I think it will now be spun that Ozil is the first of the major signings to come into the club and that Wenger will need a new 3 year contract to sign the rest of the players to make the team competitive again.

it doesnt matter really anymore whether you are for or against - the signing last night showed that Wenger is going nowhere and is here for the forseeable future.

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW

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Posted : 03/09/2013 7:53 am
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This is all about Gazidis saving his face. This has nothing to do with really strengthening the team. Think about it.
Wenger has been saying me need NUMBERS that we're very short. He's done that various times over the last two weeks. He talked of 3 and once in a post match interview when he went off message in an unguarded moment he mentioned six which I felt was nearer the mark.

We have a twenty-man squad, twenty two if we count Bendtner and Sanoga, which I don't. i don't want Bendtner even training with the squad. That is thin. Wafer thin if we consider our injury record.

Sure Ozil, or someone of his calibre, was on his wish list but I fear so much time was spent chasing the big name that the negotiating team neglected other requirements.

this is probably the best comment on the Arsenal transfer window this summer

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW

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Posted : 03/09/2013 7:56 am
islandboy
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Ozil, Ozil,Ozil. So good I named him thrice!

what has he got to do with anything?

He's a German!!!!!!!!!

We already have two German`s what is wrong with that?

Rainham Red, I did'nt say there was anything wrong with that, I mearly answered your question!!!!

Mind you, with football being teached in almost every school in the country you would think there would be a lot more Gareth Bales available for the premier league than there are at present, but then there are the fans who love to see foreign players in our midst because they say we are now tied up with the champions league etc, and the thought of having a full UK team is not prefered, in any case what good players we do produce are taken away by teams like Real Madrid for ridiculous sums of money that are above any sensible persons thinking.

End of Rave.

Dodgyrog is my name and Islandboy is where my location is.

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Posted : 03/09/2013 10:37 am
wilko331984
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I'm now back on the divide until January (on the signings side of things) Ozil is certainly a step forward and will bring class that only Santi has in the team. I'll judge the rest over the next few games.

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Posted : 03/09/2013 10:49 am
Rainham Red
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Ozil, Ozil,Ozil. So good I named him thrice!

what has he got to do with anything?

He's a German!!!!!!!!!

We already have two German`s what is wrong with that?

Rainham Red, I did'nt say there was anything wrong with that, I mearly answered your question!!!!

Mind you, with football being teached in almost every school in the country you would think there would be a lot more Gareth Bales available for the premier league than there are at present, but then there are the fans who love to see foreign players in our midst because they say we are now tied up with the champions league etc, and the thought of having a full UK team is not prefered, in any case what good players we do produce are taken away by teams like Real Madrid for ridiculous sums of money that are above any sensible persons thinking.

End of Rave.

What question?

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Posted : 03/09/2013 11:11 am
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I'm now back on the divide until January (on the signings side of things) Ozil is certainly a step forward and will bring class that only Santi has in the team. I'll judge the rest over the next few games.

yes there is no point being for or against now.
the important thing now is to get behind the team for the rest of the season.

Arsenal have got some players in so therefore I will start going to some games again.

as I havent got so much to moan about I won't be on here so much - which will probably please some people :D

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW

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Posted : 03/09/2013 1:38 pm
NickF
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I'm now back on the divide until January (on the signings side of things) Ozil is certainly a step forward and will bring class that only Santi has in the team. I'll judge the rest over the next few games.

yes there is no point being for or against now.
the important thing now is to get behind the team for the rest of the season.

Arsenal have got some players in so therefore I will start going to some games again.

as I havent got so much to moan about I won't be on here so much - which will probably please some people 😀

You could always come on here and post positive stuff instead ;)

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Posted : 03/09/2013 1:48 pm
Friscoslug
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In this either/or version I am still for, but just.

I'm not angry or disappointed just totally unclear how things fit together at the club because I believe there is a logic to it. Some stand alone aspects I get but others not.

I find it very hard to be against Arsene as a man and manager because I think his values, his ideology - call it what you like - are exactly what football needs more of. I think he treats players with respect and demands self responsibility from them, and gives them chances to redeem themselves if needed. I understand that he cannot - literally - pay ridiculous prices for fallible, vunerable human beings. It frustrates me but I admire his ability to stay firm in all the madness. I think his vision for how a club survives and remains sustainable in the future is right. Finally, I think he is completely misunderstood by many fans and media. They cannot deal with his decisions on the pitch and in the transfer market because they do not understand, or want to understand, his approach.
I'm not in any catagorie of for or against. I accept that under these circumstances he will probably have to go unless he redeems himself by winning trophies for the starving amoungst us. I think in years to come his approach will be better understood and I think, with hindsight, appreciated.

Bump.

Another strand woven into Wenger's tapestry. On so many levels Özil is perfect. In imagining combinations and moves on the pitch I am beginning to set his vision more clearly. Well done Arsène and co. Bring it on.

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Posted : 04/09/2013 10:00 am
islandboy
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I'm now back on the divide until January (on the signings side of things) Ozil is certainly a step forward and will bring class that only Santi has in the team. I'll judge the rest over the next few games.

yes there is no point being for or against now.
the important thing now is to get behind the team for the rest of the season.

Arsenal have got some players in so therefore I will start going to some games again.

as I havent got so much to moan about I won't be on here so much - which will probably please some people 😀

You could always come on here and post positive stuff instead ;)

Yes I completely agrree!!!!! And explain why you think a question mark after sentence is not a question??

Dodgyrog is my name and Islandboy is where my location is.

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Posted : 04/09/2013 4:08 pm
SmudgersBeak
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I'm now back on the divide until January (on the signings side of things) Ozil is certainly a step forward and will bring class that only Santi has in the team. I'll judge the rest over the next few games.

yes there is no point being for or against now.
the important thing now is to get behind the team for the rest of the season.

Arsenal have got some players in so therefore I will start going to some games again.

as I havent got so much to moan about I won't be on here so much - which will probably please some people 😀

You could always come on here and post positive stuff instead ;)

Yes I completely agrree!!!!! And explain why you think a question mark after sentence is not a question??

Is it not??

Ockham's razor
Irritation free

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Posted : 05/09/2013 7:49 pm
CaptainOoermrs
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In this either/or version I am still for, but just.

I'm not angry or disappointed just totally unclear how things fit together at the club because I believe there is a logic to it. Some stand alone aspects I get but others not.

I find it very hard to be against Arsene as a man and manager because I think his values, his ideology - call it what you like - are exactly what football needs more of. I think he treats players with respect and demands self responsibility from them, and gives them chances to redeem themselves if needed. I understand that he cannot - literally - pay ridiculous prices for fallible, vunerable human beings. It frustrates me but I admire his ability to stay firm in all the madness. I think his vision for how a club survives and remains sustainable in the future is right. Finally, I think he is completely misunderstood by many fans and media. They cannot deal with his decisions on the pitch and in the transfer market because they do not understand, or want to understand, his approach.
I'm not in any catagorie of for or against. I accept that under these circumstances he will probably have to go unless he redeems himself by winning trophies for the starving amoungst us. I think in years to come his approach will be better understood and I think, with hindsight, appreciated.

Bump.

Another strand woven into Wenger's tapestry. On so many levels Özil is perfect. In imagining combinations and moves on the pitch I am beginning to set his vision more clearly. Well done Arsène and co. Bring it on.

Bumping up your own message - Brilliant!!
Just one thing Why do you suddenly think this is an AW signing success, when in your initial message you applaud the ´his ability to stay firm in all the madness´
After months (years?) off bids substantially lower then the selling clubs value whilst the board has been screaming about funds available it seems more likely to me atleast the feelings of the supporters and their growing discontentment has forced this action.
If you want to applaud AW for getting Ozil ( and in that respect IG and the board also deserve your congratulations ) than in the same way you should be pouring scorn on all the other players we didn´t get

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Posted : 07/09/2013 6:56 pm
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